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los alamos interview
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title: "Los Alamos Interview"
source: https://otherhand.org/home-page/area-51-and-other-strange-places/bluefire-main/bluefire/the-bob-lazar-corner/los-alamos-interview/
retrieved: 2026-06-28
author: Tom Mahood (otherhand.org) / quoted sources
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# Los Alamos Interview
Interview – Lazar in Los Alamos
The following is the transcript of a recorded telephone interview that took place on May 25, 1996, between Mark Farmer (**MF**) and an individual who knew Robert Lazar when he was at Los Alamos, New Mexico. The interview was recorded with the knowledge and consent of both parties. The individual being interviewed by Mr. Farmer has requested his name not be publicly disclosed in this transcript, so his name and any other identifying references have been removed..
**[Start tape]**
**MF:** I got your name through — okay, we’re going there. As I was stating in my message there, doing a little follow-up on Bob Lazar, and I got through some sources that he had — you and he had known each other back when he was in Los Alamos. Correct?
**A:** Correct.
**MF:** Okay. Do you — what was he — was he working for …
**A:** Before you go any further, who were the sources that you spoke to?
**MF:** Okay. I got your name through Mr. Tom Mahood, who did some background investigation for the Lazar timeline. Have you heard of that?
**A:** No.
**MF:** He put together — George Knapp is a journalist in Las Vegas who put out the original story that Lazar — you know, had been Mr. Goodwrench on the flying saucers?
**A:** Yeah.
**MF:** And, we’ve — Knapp had stated that he wasn’t able to find anything about — about Lazar’s past. Well, Mahood is an ex-civil engineer and an associate of mine, real straight-forward guy. He just decided to take it upon himself to start going looking through records and stuff. Well, he showed up in Los Alamos with his wife year before last, started asking some questions and whatnot, and he came across your name from some other people who I don’t quite know. But …
**A:** I talked to a couple of people, and I can’t remember their names. Stan Friedman was one of them, but I can’t recall the other people that tracked me down, so I was just curious.
**MF:** Yeah. [Indisc.]. Actually it may have came through — to Tom from Stan Friedman ’cause I know they have corresponded. But, I would think that would be the extent of where your name has gone around. I’m just trying to find out whether or not — do you know — was Mr. Lazar working for anybody at the lab at that time?
**A:** Yeah. He — he did work for the lab for a while.
**MF:** Was he working for Kirk Mayer?
**A:** That kind of rings a bell, but he was — that he was a contractor.
**MF:** Okay. And, was he a physicist?
**A:** He claimed to be. I don’t believe he was.
**MF:** Okay. So, he — that — that was unknown then, we can say. You didn’t know either …
**A:** He claimed he had a degree from either Cal Tech or MIT or something like that, but I don’t think that that was ever substantiated that he had a degree.
**MF:** How did you meet him, sir?
**A:** Well, I used to be a real gear head, and he came into town. He had this jet powered Honda, so naturally, I started talking to him, and we had — we became friends from there.
**MF:** Did you ever visit him at his photo shop or anything like that?
**A:** Oh, very often.
**MF:** Okay. Was the — so you met — I imagine that you knew his first wife, Carol.
**MF:** Yeah.
**MF:** What was the — what was the atmosphere around there? Was it — was it professional? Was there lots of people hanging out there, or do you remember?
**A:** The atmosphere, as far as being professional, I would say it was — you know, it wasn’t unprofessional. It was just a small shop, you know. I was generally one of the only people that came around there. They didn’t have a lot of friends.
**MF:** Did — did — is the story that I have receivedthat he solicited you for some financial support for his jet car?
**A:** Yeah. That — that wasn’t the Honda. That was for a J-79 jet dragster.
**MF:** That’s the one he has now?
**A:** Right.
**MF:** Okay. And, — and you helped him?
**A:** Yes.
**MF:** And, did he ever pay you back?
**A:** Well, that’s — that’s kind of a strange story. Yes, I got paid — I was repaid about a year ago, and it was at the height of all of this that — where people were calling me, and it — I was told that he had a big movie deal going on, and people were starting to dig into his past and find out whether he was on the level or not. And, after I had talked to several of these people, a check showed up in the mail not too much longer after the last guy I talked to, so apparently I think he was a little bit nervous about me speaking with those folks.
**MF:** Was — was the check drawn on his account, or was it a cashier’s check?
**A:** It was a cashier’s check.
**MF**: Okay. ‘Cause I’ve heard that a Mr. Bigelow, with the Bigelow Tea family may have supported him on that one.